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Deutsche Bank Says iPhone 8 Supercycle Hype is Overblown: 'Investors Will Be Disappointed'

Deutsche Bank Says iPhone 8 Supercycle Hype is Overblown: 'Investors Will Be Disappointed'

Posted July 11, 2017 at 3:57pm by iClarified
Deutsche Bank is out with a new note warning investors that expectations for another iPhone supercycle are far too high.

In the note seen by Business Insider, analysts Sherri Scribner, Adrienne Colby, and Jeffrey Rand write, "We believe investors will be disappointed by iPhone growth in FY-18 and FY-19." They believe fundamental challenges in the smartphone market are being ignored including saturation in mature markets, elongated refresh cycles, declining share, increased competition in China, and a growing secondary market.

Back in 2015, "everything went right for the iPhone 6 cycle." Sales were boosted by a several advantages that will not repeat including a much larger display and the addition of China Mobile as a carrier. "That cycle saw peak iPhone shipments of 231M in FY-15, a shipment level the company has not been able to repeat."


"Given most smartphones are now refreshed on a roughly 2.7 year cycle, we think FY-18 should be measured against FY-15. This cycle and our installed base estimates suggest Apple could ship about 230M iPhones in FY-18. However, Street expectations are modeling shipments of 244M units, implying an additional 13M iPhones shipments beyond refresh."

The Deutsche Bank analysts don't know where the additional 13 million iPhone buyers will come from as 65% of the smartphone market is for phones below $300 and the smartphone market is largely saturated already. Additionally, the smartphone market is seeing much slower growth than it did back in 2015. See the chart below.

There are also reports that the new iPhone will cost significantly more than the existing models and could be in limited supply. "Generally, when prices go up, demand goes down," wrote the analysts. "A scenario where prices go up and demand goes up seems highly unlikely in our view."

Of course, it's possible that Apple could steal significant market share from Android manufacturers if the device wows consumers enough to make the switch.


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D4xM4Nx
D4xM4Nx - July 12, 2017 at 6:34am
A bank? Give a break... The only things banks are good at, is stealing money from their cardholders and serving as backdoor for drug lords, corrupt governments and the like. The iPhone 8 needs to do so much better than the iPhone 6s/7 in order to land a massive success, yet my hopes are siding with it.
t11chb
t11chb - July 11, 2017 at 11:32pm
Just like the disappointment with our banks. At least apple set us up for the disappointment.
Hmmm
Hmmm - July 11, 2017 at 5:26pm
iPhone 8 must have a big overhaul cause we have been waiting since iPhone 6 for a change and with iPhone 7 the only thing changed was the antenna placement and Apple taking away the headphone jack in order to force the sales of the AirPods.
Pamela5
Pamela5 - July 11, 2017 at 10:54pm
^That's the truth ^
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